going after people who aren't able to make an educated decision regarding their nutrition? frankly it's insulting to us, it's insulting to our customers, it's insulting to the ebb tire latino community. >> des, i sat through bill ackman's presentation live and one of the most compelling parts of it was when he put up images of your brochure for herbalife clothes which looked beautiful and gorgeous, and then went in what he described as real life, they sent cameras around the country to look at some of these quote/unquote clubs and they looked very different. they look nothing like the brochure. they had no signage on the outside. there was no lights. literally the windows were closed. they were in horrible neighborhoods. it just, the whole thing, i have to say, it was one of those moments in the room where i think a lot of people said, huh. what did you make of that? >> you know, andrew forgive me. but you characterize those neighborhoods as horrible neighborhoods. let me tell you, that's where -- that may not be where you live, andrew, it may not be where mr. anman lives but the real
